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Photoshop for dummies

Post by cartunes-r-us on Sun 7 Mar - 21:39

It looks like I will trying out my first-ever photoshop colouring pretty soon. I can paint OK by hand, so hopefully I will be able to pick this up fairly quickly...[famous last words].

I may have some comic-strip artwork comissions coming up [D C Thomson are vetting my script before any go-ahead] so I'm keeping schtumm for the moment......however, like most comics work, this is to be rendered in modern computer-colour, so it's a real 'chucked-in-at-the-deep-end' scenario.........

I like the fact that the colours are not directly applied to the original b/w artwork, and I suppose this is cheating in a way, but it's great that you can't really 'muck up' the origunal inking [I am sticking to traditional inking for life, hopefully: I hope I never go over to drawing with a tablet].

However, if this work goes ahead, I have a dilemma: the artwork will be A3, and I only have an A4 scanner: how do others manage to do full-page colouring on photoshop, on larger-scale artwork? I get the impression that it can be done on an A4 scanner.
I only want to get an A3 scanner if it's absolutely essential.
Any advice would be welcome.

This will likely be a long, lengthy thread, as this is totally new [but intruiging] territory, for me at least.


cheers, readers: RAB.[i]
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Sun 7 Mar - 23:52

In one of my cartoon programs I can alter size of any drawing up to 'giant poster size' so I assume this is done within the photoshop program itself.

Meanwhile I have found this really useful 'photshop forum' where you may find the answer .

http://www.photoshopgurus.com/forum/photoshop-newbies/16815-scan-a3-into-a4.html

Someone here seems to be asking the same question but in reverse!
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Mon 8 Mar - 10:01

Yes cartunes, I've done a lot of stuff on A3 and reproduced it with an A4 scanner. All you do is scan in both halves of the image, then reduce each one in size (not necessarily 50% as it depends on how much white space you had around the original cartoon- you will want to utilize as much of the new A4 document as possible.)
Then you flip the two halves accordingly so that you can copy and paste them to the new document and line them up. Flatten the image, and you are ready to start applying your colour. Once you are up and running, and ready to try this, I can help you if you don't understand fully how to do this, but it's easier than it sounds.
See my previous post on this subject: http://www.cartoonist-forum.com/your-art-f4/all-my-own-shirk-t35-15.htm
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Mon 8 Mar - 11:06

Ahaha, I got the wrong end of the stick there ... women eh! Wink
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Post by Simon Lake on Mon 8 Mar - 12:00

Yes, she's talking about reducing an already existing A3 scan to A4 from what I can gather. A different kettle of fish. Maybe they should have a "Photoshop for blonds?" (Lol)
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Mon 8 Mar - 13:44

Simon Lake wrote:Maybe they should have a "Photoshop for blonds?" (Lol)

Smile That might make funny comic strip:

pic one:
Blonde moaning she looks pale in her photo's
pic two:
Blonde is told photoshop can make her look more tanned
pic three:
Blonde walks into Kodak SHOP and asks for a spray tan

This reminds me of true story re me and a pal in Scarborough many many years ago.

(I was a rocker at said time)

She says: "There's a really good rock shop opened up on the high street".
"Great" says I "do you they sell Queen t-shirts?"
"No" she says, "they sell rock".

Blonde and a brummy you see!
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Mon 8 Mar - 17:31

Doh!
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Post by cartunes-r-us on Wed 10 Mar - 10:00

OK, thanks, people----it certainly looks like it can be done: but isn't it a bit awkward cramming large artwork into an A4 scanner: I suppose the artwork could be drawn in A4 sections, and lined up later though.....but occassionally there could be overlapping artwork, making later allignment very difficult.
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Wed 10 Mar - 11:22

Yes Rab, it may seem a bit primitive and ham- fisted to you at first, but it's not really a question of "cramming" the image into the scanner, but really just doing both halves at a time as if by "landscape" as opposed to "portrait", and then a bit of manipulation in Photoshop, as I've best tried to portray here:
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by cartunes-r-us on Wed 10 Mar - 11:59

Thanks, Simon: I bow to your experience!
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Wed 10 Mar - 12:13

I draw quite small, is that where I'm going wrong?
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Wed 10 Mar - 12:52

No Leah, it's just that if one is doing something on this scale such as this tee shirt design of mine with a lot of detail then it makes more sense to attack it on an A3 so as to have the economy of space to feel comfortable with. Much the same as strip cartoons such as Rab's which will eventually be reduced to thumbnail size for newspaper publication, it would be impossible (well, messy) to get as clean an effect as if he had done them on A4. I've always admired the works of Dick Millington.
http://lambiek.net/artists/m/millington_dick.htm
To create artwork of this scale requires a lot of fore- thought and vision of what the desired end product is going to look like. But at the same time, to be able to draw as small as you do is an admirable quality as long as the subject matter is to remain fairly simple.
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Wed 10 Mar - 13:25

Hmmm. I find I draw better in miniature for some reason. I think it's because I do it all in one fluid line like yourself. The larger the image the more wobbly the line.
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Thu 25 Mar - 6:51

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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by LeahG on Thu 22 Jul - 14:57

I now draw A4 size, that's big enough for me.

I am also going on a mission to learn the technical side of thigns so watch this space!!!!!

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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by Simon Lake on Thu 22 Jul - 16:24

Next year A3? (lol)
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Re: Photoshop for dummies

Post by grantw on Thu 22 Jul - 16:27

Very interesting, another tip might be to create a certain amount of overlap between the scans..I read an article on this but haven't got the URL to hand. The article used scanning in four sections with a small amount [1/2 inch?] overlap as a safety tip.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Scanning-Artwork&id=4103880&opt=print
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Post by Simon Lake on Thu 22 Jul - 16:29

Now you getting all technical Grant.
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Post by grantw on Thu 22 Jul - 16:33

I know! I just stick to A4 meself so I seldom have to scan anything larger!
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Post by Simon Lake on Thu 22 Jul - 17:23

There's just something about the availability of space A3 can offer you. Especially if it's half decent paper as well. Most A3 Drawing books will be on respectable paper instead of drawing on A4 copier paper all the time and it can make the world of difference.
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