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So, you want to be an animator?

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So, you want to be an animator?

Post by scarycaravan on Sat 22 May - 14:31

Hi everyone,

This is my first real informative posting in regards animation, its process and how to go about becoming an animator.

I think it would be a great idea to work from the ground up. And to start we will begin by discussing what the foundations are for a good animator, or someone wanting to animate successfully.

Animation is about creating movement. Manipulating a series of still images (all slightly different) and having the ability to play these sequential images back to create the illusion of motion. This can be in the form of a simple flick-book or scanning drawings into the computer and placing them onto a timeline in any video editing software. Anyone can animate, but what makes a GOOD animator? What makes a believable animation? The answer is a good foundation.

So what is this foundation I am talking about? The foundation of any good animator is to understand movement. This cannot really be taught in a classroom, it has to be learnt from everyday life experience and what you see outside. Begin to LOOK at people rather than SEE. Study their walks, their facial expressions and habits. Take a sketchbook out with you and draw, draw...draw! Get into the habit of drawing loose and fast. Try and capture some ones walk in one drawing. You should get to a point where you are looking at the subject more than you are the page you are sketching on.

Try sketching 20 second observations then, 15, 10 and so on. This is great exercise, not only for an animator, but for a cartoonist too.

Why not give it a try and let me know how you get one.

This next week I will be uploading some cool content in relation to my 'ghostboy' project. Something that I am only making available on this forum and my blog.

All the best

Jason
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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by LeahG on Sat 22 May - 17:43

Hi Jason

Great beginners guide to animation there! Thank you.

A while back a few of us had a go at creating animated avatars. You can see Simon's in his avatar. Mine was a dancing headless chicken as seen here:



It gets very annoying to look at after a while hence I don't use it as my avatar Smile

What would be your comments re this first attempt?
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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by scarycaravan on Sat 22 May - 18:45

Hi Leah,

You are welcome. I will try and make this a weekly post, so it remains consistent and informative.

In regards to your 'headless chicken' animation; I think it's a GREAT first attempt at an Avatar loop animation. What software was this produced in? A good vector based and web safe animation programme is Adobe Flash. Perfect for creating Avatar animations and loops.

All the best

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Post by LeahG on Sat 22 May - 22:36

Hi Jason

I created it using a very inexpensive thing called 'graphic design studio' cost about £6.
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Post by scarycaravan on Mon 24 May - 20:02

Hi Leah,

EXCELLENT! Leah, this goes to show you don't need to be spending hundreds of pounds to create animation. This is the perfect kind of software for a budding animator.

All the best

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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by flatcap on Mon 24 May - 22:32

great animation Leah, did it take you long to do it have you heard of a program called crazy talk, you might be interested in it. my local film club are going to animate some super heroes i did for a council, i cant wait to see my work talk
i'd like to try it myself but not sure if the program is suitable for someone who's never animated, still trying to get my head round corel painter,
have you ever come across crazy talk scarycaravan
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Post by LeahG on Tue 25 May - 1:12

Hi flat cap, this animation didn't take long at all, and I am not very tech savvy.

I drew the pics in under 5 mins, very simple pics as you can see, 5 pics in total.

Scanning them and saving to pc of course took a few more mins, in fact this process took the longest time.

Animating the pics took around 30 seconds!

The process was a simple matter of stating the order of the pics, the speed of the pics and the direction of the pics (I think!) and then hit 'animate' and boom, job done.

I chose a headless chicken to animate as I figured it would be fairly easy and at same time effective as this is pretty much the image we have of a headless chicken dancing.

If I could improve it, I'd add some blood splats to the ground to show where the blood falls, but the problem there would be that those splats would also become animated whereas I'd want them to remain static.

I wonder how they get around this in animation?

Jason??

ps I haven't heard of the program you mentioned. This animation effort came about quite spur of the moment, when John, Simon and I were talking about animating. I wanted to see how my very inexpensive software worked. It probably does so much more but as with all my programs I haven't really spent any time getting to know them. It's my mission to do so!
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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by Simon Lake on Tue 25 May - 1:57

There you've done it I see. The only thing now is to completely whiten the background?
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Post by LeahG on Tue 25 May - 2:03

Simon Lake wrote:There you've done it I see. The only thing now is to completely whiten the background?

No, that blood spill was already there, created by placing it in same spot on page for every pic. What I mean is blood splashed re the blood spurting out the head.

Re whitening the background I have a feeling I did this already and this is an old version. Let me check it out!
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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by scarycaravan on Fri 28 May - 11:06

Hi guys,

Sorry I haven't been on in a couple of days, I have been working on a lip-sync animation.

I haven't heard of 'crazytalk' before flatcap! I will have to check it out see what it offers.

Leah. In regards to the splatter to remain on the ground, you would usually have to loop it on every frame, or create a new layer (which would then remain static), placing this over or below the animated layers.

All the best

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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by cartunes-r-us on Sat 29 May - 9:45

I was serious about working in animation at one point, but I much prefer the older-fashioned hand-drawn technique, which seems to be out of favour these days.


Most of the work in animation today seems to be in the CGI field, and too much of this stuff all seems to look too similar, and I've no real desire to work in this field.

I would have loved to have been around in the BUGS BUNNY-TEX AVERY days of animation.
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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by grantw on Sat 29 May - 10:34

Yes, the Tex Avery era was a high point for Animation, but with a graphics tablet and software like Toonboom and Flash you can do the hand drawn approach without the need for cells or paper. Have a look at my post on Animation software in "free stuff" and there is freeware which allows you to draw "full" animation with your graphics tablet, and doesn't cost a bean!
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Post by cartunes-r-us on Sat 29 May - 11:01

I will definately follow this one up, Grant!
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Post by grantw on Sat 29 May - 12:31

Good to hear it Rab, you can use something like pencil or PAP and draw in the programme for no outlay, they are all save enabled as well. Here is a little animation I did with pen, scanner and freeware "microsoft gif animator"!

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Re: So, you want to be an animator?

Post by scarycaravan on Sun 30 May - 10:04

Hi grantw,

Yeah Flash and ToonBoom are two great software packages. For those wanting to try Flash animation, you can download a 30 day free trial here:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=flash&promoid=FDTFP

All the best

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Post by scarycaravan on Sun 30 May - 10:06

Hey guys,

Sorry I haven't been on over the past couple of days, I have been busy working on a lip-sync animation. I will update you to what in the next day or so.

All the best

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Post by LeahG on Sun 30 May - 10:47

Hi Jason, thanks for the tip re adding those blood splats. I shall have a go at that soon. Smile
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